One of the hot (and very secretive) new Finnish "super-startups" is Fruugo, at www.fruugo.com, an "online shopping" company with Nokia's former CEO (and current Chairman of Shell) Jorma Ollila, and F-Secure Founder/Chairman Risto Siilasmaa in the board of directors.
Fruugo has been quite secretive, signing NDA's with everyone they talk with. There has been plenty of gossip about Fruugo, which is precisely what you get if you are being secretive and don't tell ;-)
According to the gossip they have pretty impressive funding (tens of millions of EUR), and as many as 150 employees (plus possibly many 3rd party partners and subcontractors). Also according to the gossip they were hiring more people as recently as last month. The burn rate is huge for a startup: well over 1M EUR per month and climbing with all those 150 people.
ArcticStartup wrote stuff about them in late June:
http://www.arcticstartup.com/fruugos-ceo-shares-plans-with-arctic-startup/
Now the gossip has recently really heated up. Some of the stuff circulating around include:
- They are going to "tell all" at SIME Stockholm.
- Fruugo is currently mass-firing people, up to 33% of their staff (which would be 50 people?)
- Customers (merchants) are not entirely impressed with what they have to offer.
- Those who have seen the product say it's impressive and very nicely designed.
- However at the same time the gossip is hinting that "there's no beef yet"
- Their product launch has been severely delayed multiple times now.
- All the dash in hiring more people is partially a result of missing deadlines and trying to speed things up by hiring more people.
I would LOVE to see Fruugo succeed and "conquer the world". Finland (and all of Scandinavia) needs impressive "super-startup" showcases. Fruugo could be one. www.blyk.com could be one, www.spotify.com could be one. It's nasty to see people always concentrating more on the negative, than on the positive and the obvious potential.
In any case it sounds like a really serious venture: to burn up multiple millions and hire up to 150 people before the product even hits the market. Ambitious, certainly. Risky, for sure.
The 33% people laid off sounds very serious for a couple of reasons; the first one on the list being how poor management competence it demonstrates (if it is true at all?). First hiring people rapidly and then firing lots of them a month later doesn't really showcase competent management. The current economic crisis is not and could not have been a surprise to anyone in the industry. Most people have been waiting since about 2005 for things to crash "any minute now". I personally remember being in Thailand in August of 2007 on a scuba diving course (PADI; Nitrox Diver), and discussing this economic stuff with other entrepreneurs vacationing there. Some memorable lines from the conversations were that "people don't realize how serious this is, our firm has been preparing for the crash for about 1,5 years now, and we except the economy to hit the wall within a year". Didn't happen quite that fast, but almost. Not a surprise for anyone; and it should not be for Fruugo either. Managers cannot see the future, but when they have to lay off people they ARE the ones ultimately responsible.
So what's up with that? All I have is the usual gossip and rumor mill, no really concrete stuff here. Does anybody know better?
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You know there are old people
Sat, 2008-11-01 04:55 — Jouni (not verified)You know there are old people on the management board, when they advertise their product with:
"Fruugo will do for online shopping what Antonin Stradivarius did for musical instruments."
But anyway it's nice to see someone spending insane amount of money IN FINLAND to something like this, what sounds a bit risky.
This reminds me about the old Finnish mobile game company called Riot Entertainment...
But I really hope that Fruugo will work out when it's released and that it would result in Finland for investors to take more risks on "crazy" startups.
Risk Taking
Sat, 2008-11-01 08:26 – taneliSecond that, Jouni. Ambitious risks and "crazy plans" is precisely the kind of stuff that's very exciting and in Fruugo's case I think there is actual potential; e-commerce and online shopping doesn't quite work as intended yet, and there is plenty of opportunities in fixing it and making it work better. Good ideas, very demanding/challenging execution.
Further about seeing the crash coming:
Actually many people and entrepreneurs got really pessimistic and started to wait for the crash once FED stopped reporting the M3 monetary aggregate (stopped telling how much money they print out of nothing). They decided that in late 2005 and stopped actual reporting in March 2006.
The second very strong "tell-sign" of the coming crash was when in early June 2006 George W. Bush gave the National Director of Intelligence, John Negroponte, the authority to exempt certain Wall St. firms from reporting their stuff to the SEC (this was widely reported, by Business Week for example).
After those 2 events many were certain that the crash is just a matter of time, and started taking action towards preparing and selling off stuff before prices get trashed. Interesting "Cassandra Complex" - kind of problem there...
waiting
Sun, 2008-11-02 04:09 – EetuI'm also waiting for Fruugo to launch something. :D
Nice!
Wed, 2008-11-05 14:51 — Kdude (not verified)Funny,
we Finns always complain that the reason for the lack of success is non-existent venture funding, inability to take risks and lack of management skills in startups.
Now we have one with:
- Tons of venture funding
- Definitely the ability to take risks and
- Powerful and experienced management
And what happens when some drawbacks appear? We start acting like vultures;) ALL the startups (and even the monsters) are preparing for serious downturn. We could argue that they should have known better. But they didn't.
Maybe it's time to see the Sequoia slideset about good times and be positive. After all, we need success stories, right?
Think positive!
de ja vu
Wed, 2008-11-05 16:13 — ville (not verified)Don't know why, but why does:
"- Tons of venture funding
- Definitely the ability to take risks and
- Powerful and experienced management"
sound like Meridea all over again :)
This article
Wed, 2008-11-05 16:17 – EetuIs getting a lot of traffic world wide :D Good!!
Bittersweet
Wed, 2008-11-05 20:00 — Fabio De Bernardi (not verified)I'll just copy and paste my comment on the TechCrunch article...
@Taneli Tikka: nice post you wrote and great CV/experience… if you plan to come in London be in touch for some business talk and a few drinks!
I admit I haven’t heard of Fruugo before and now I’m quite curious to see what are they developing.
This sort of news are bittersweet for bootstrapped start ups as you wonder what you could do with a few millions in the bank… well, if you can’t control your nerves maybe you end up losing them!
However, the online shopping space is rich of opportunities, it’s just a matter of cracking that space open and I’m sure that we’ll see new billion-dollar businesses there!
My 2 cents… I co-founded a social shopping site aimed at product discovery, say StumbleUpon for consumer products and although we don’t sell products directly our goal is to connect people to great products they wouldn’t have searched for. http://www.veedow.com/hello
RE: London trips etc
Wed, 2008-11-05 20:34 – taneliThank you. I'm in London from time to time. Muxlim for example has an office there. Veedow.com seems like a cool and useful idea. Will have to check it out, thanks!
News about Fruugo in Kauppalehti
Fri, 2008-11-14 13:18 — Anonymous (not verified)Sorry, only in Finnish. http://www.kauppalehti.fi/5/i/yritykset/yritysuutiset/index.jsp?oid=2008...
Finnish mentality
Fri, 2008-11-14 22:23 — Anonymous (not verified)I personally think the biggest gap in the Finnish start-up scene is the lack of international marketing champions. We have ideas, we produce sound technology and we have ambitious, talented, educated professional...except in international marketing. I personally hope all the best for Fruugo, don't let all the spam put you down!
http://www.kauppalehti.fi/5/i
Tue, 2008-11-25 21:02 — Anonymous (not verified)http://www.kauppalehti.fi/5/i/yritykset/yritysuutiset/?oid=2008/11/16728
Tekes gave 1,5 Meur to Fruugo for building service platform
http://akseli.tekes.fi/opencms/opencms/OhjelmaPortaali/ohjelmat/INTO/fi/...
CEOs
Mon, 2008-12-01 22:50 — CEO (not verified)Every successful start-up has a founder. The One that guides the company through the challenging times, and convinces both media and investor on the way forward, and most importantly, attracts top people to join in the success story.
Who is running Fruugo? Where's the Story?
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